Anyone watching montel? - The dreaded topic..

luvbug00 wrote: Great he's on the teen "frolicking" subect and that usually turns to teen parents and then he'll make everyone of us look compleately irrisponcible and stuiped. I would love to get on one of those shows and chew them out. Now he's talking about seggestive clothing on kids. They are CLOTHES for heavens sake! It's how you carry yourself not what you wear.

mckayleesmom replied: No, I don't have cable right now....Which is why Im always on the computer

luvbug00 replied: That's cable for you? We have it as a basic channel. What channels do you get? I feel for you !!!

mckayleesmom replied: We don't have ANY channels right now....We checked into the cable packages out here and they were a crock...so we are hooking our direct tv back up. But we are doing it when dh gets home...No biggie...the kids usually take over the tv during the day and I just watch a dvd before bed...IF I get up there at a decent time.

luvbug00 replied: How is direct tv? we were thinking about getting that. Have you had it before?

mckayleesmom replied: Yes...we loved it.....I don't think that cable where we are offers half the channels for more then we paid for the direct tv.

5littleladies replied:
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I've seen many girls wearing ridiculously suggestive clothes and they may be very sweet, nice girls, but what they are wearing is giving a bad impression. I will not allow my girls to wear some of the clothes that are out on the market today, and honestly, I hope they don't want to. I think it's sad what is being marketed towards our young, YOUNG kids today.

mckayleesmom replied:
Im going to agree...Like the Mary Kate and Ashly line at Walmart...some are cute...but some look like hooker clothes

luvbug00 replied: I Respect your opinion 3littleladies. There are some clothes that do send the wrong impression. like those that expose too much. Cleavage holes for undeveloped 12 year olds for example. But what harm do halter tops and spagettie straps, or writting on clothes do? I don't see how they could do any harm unless the person wearing them acts like they agree with the writting or somthing like that. What do you think?

A&A'smommy replied:
ITA!!!!! It drives me crazy seeing 5 and 6 year old girl wearing halter tops that show their bellies and mini skirts!!! They are little girls they should look like little girls not like little girls who want to have breast and guys looking at their butts anyway as far as the teen parents go he can stick it up his butt I happen to been a teen parent (an older teen parent) but I'm good at what I do!!

5littleladies replied:
I don't have a problem with halter tops or spaghetti straps on older people(although I don't wear halter tops-I personally think they are ugly ). Writing on clothes-specifically on the rear would be the issue I suppose-I think that's just dumb. Obviously if you write something on your butt it's going to draw attention to your butt and why would I want anyone looking there? I know I don't want anyone looking at my daughters rear ends' so that is one thing they will not be wearing. It really doesn't matter what the attitude-Certain types of clothing are going to draw negative attention.

gr33n3y3z replied: All I have to say is
I see it Friday night - Saturday night woman wearing clothes that will make one think are which good time are they looking for.
No matter how you carry yourself you still leave an impression of easy and want the attension of all eyes on you when you wear stuff any shorter ( meaning your butt checks almost showing)

My girls will only wear skirts that are finger tip length nothing less.

Hillbilly Housewife replied: I for one will refuse continuously to let my daughter wear a pair of pants or a skirt that says 'juicy' on the butt part.

I know that it`s the name brand that`s 'juicy' - however some old guy (old for my daughter... lol) who is looking at her butt, reading 'juicy' on her butt, might get thoughts in his heaad that he wouldn`t necessarily get had he not been looking at her butt because of a word written there.

And WHY would a 7 year old need to worry about underwear lines? Because they want to attract the 8 year old in the class? Like, come ON.

Spagheti straps - I don`t have a problem with them - but I wouldn`t go for the cleavage showing spaghetti strap shirts - but tehy are kids, and it's sad that grown men (and some women) purposely look IN the shirts to see mosquito bites.

As for skirts - I'm always going to stress to my daughter that skirts are fine - as long as you don't see panties - whether when she sits down, and if she plans to play, that she wears shorts under for when she squats or whatever.

I`m SORRY. But a 12 year old does NOT need those hooker ankle-holders in their ears - they don`t need the inch thick makeup, they don't need to wear littl emore than a bra over some sheer material - they don't need to wear a skirt that just BEGS for an older guy to try to look under....

everybody KNOWS that rapes can happen anywhere, anytime - but honestly, who do you think a rapist would target? Someone who is dressed decently? Or someone dressed provocatively? There IS a difference. You can wear something that shows off a little - and you can wear something that is just plain indecent.

you can look good - and you can look like you're *easy*.

There`s comfortable with your body, then there`s putting it on display like you're in a meat market. *Look at my big boos! See how much cleavage I have? And you can almost see ALL of them with my short shirt!!!* and *don't I have a nice butt? Let me bend over a little bit for you so you can get a better look.....*

I think that society is commercializing a very intimate area of life - and if people want to sexualize themselves in order to advance in life or whatever, then for me, it`s telling me that they don't have the self confidence to do it truly on their own - they have to rely on that kind of tactic to impress. Their personality, skills, ablilites just aren't enough, and they need to resprt to hoping the 'boss' will hire them because they're cute.

I'm overweight, and I can still manage to look good enough to work, to get free stuff at stores, to have a strange guy my age hold a door open for me. If I can do it when I`m NOT wearing a scarf around my butt, I'm SURE a 14 year old can get a job or a boyfriend without letting it all hang out.


Sorry, I`m off my soap box now - I still can`t get over seeing thongs in WALMART of all palces, in the girls 6 x 8 section, with messages like *bite 'em* or *naughty* on them.



(edited for some spelling)

TANNER'S MOM replied: Well I have two daughters who are teenagers..

And we dont' fight over clothes. They don't wear the crap like that.

They do have shorts that say CUTIE or something but they sleep in them or wear them to gym and nothing else.

My 11 needs a bra w/ support already. She wears a 34B..but she also weighs 110lbs and is 5'4 so I guess it depends on the kids.

You very rarely see mine in belly shirts...which I think they look cute in some of them.

My 11 year old step daughter did bring home a shirt from the mall that said.. Cowgirls do it better than Cowboys..and we returned it.

She took it mean...girls are better than boys.....but I explained to her than some people might not take the same way.

I have been very luch...alot of the time I want my Britt to show more than she does..lol A dress w/ spaghetti straps etc b/c she has the perfect body and she tells me no.

I was raised by a man, and he monitored everything I wore..and you know what he still does! He will say that looks nice dear...or u need to change that shirt sis you can see down it!

Mel

mysweetpeasWil&Wes replied:
I see what you're saying...that it's the way you carry yourself not the clothes, but I don't agree. As a teenager, you aren't aware of how you carry yourself. Peer pressure and wanting to fit in completely fogs the whole meaning. It's hard as a teen to know the difference of what's crossing the line, what's too sexy, or what's inappropriate. Just look at the shirt Mel's daughter bought about the cowgirls...she thought it meant something else. So this is exactly what we're all afraid of, afraid that kids won't know what is right from wrong if we don't help them out and point them in the right direction. I don't have a teen yet, but I applaud all you parents who have made appropriate clothing choices for your children. Glad you took the shirt back Mel! Once they're out of the house, well then they can make that choice themself and I'm only hoping that by that time, they will understand what it really means to "carry oneself", sexy clothes on or not.

I also want to add that it's not necessarily how the child acts in the clothes, it's how others perceive them...older men that is! My sister's niece wears spandex shorts all the time with no underwear...she's only 8! And not that I think spandex bike shorts are bad, but she definitely has a cute little booty and I can see how she may get looks from guys.

This is a reacurring issue in our society...it's not only happening with the clothing of today. Don't you all remember your mother's taking your Madonna fishnet tops back to the store...those of us from the 80s? I begged for the off-the-shoulder tops and miniskirts like the rest of them, but my mother taught me why little girls shouldn't be wearing them.

Josie83 replied: Gosh keep me away from this debate. Jason and I were 18 and 19 when Cassie was born and I look at her and think she's doing okay . . . xx

mysweetpeasWil&Wes replied: I'm sorry...I wasn't talking about teenage parents, I was talking about teens or tweens wearing provocative clothes. I'm sure you are a great parent and Cassie is a great kid!

luvbug00 replied: The clothing topic took presence above the teen pregnancy. We are all great parents!!

I dunno. I see and understand what you are all telling me. It is just so differant for me. I let Mya wear halters and spagettie straps but she isn't aloud to wear a skirt . Skorts only!! She wears halter dresses and belly shirts but they only go 1 inch or so above her bell botton. I wore very provocitve clothes but I carried myself in the way where the guys knew that I wasn't sleezy. In fact most were intemidated by my self confidance.

Josie83 replied:
Rae, I'm sorry, I didn't want to think I was attacking you. I didn't read any of the posts except for the first one that started this topic, and I meant what I said . . . I'll stay away from this topic! Obviously it has been a bit of a sore point for me and my family seeing as though I was a teen parent. I'm really sorry if I offended you Rae, I didn't mean to at all. I think it just so happened that your post was the last one before mine xx

mysweetpeasWil&Wes replied:
Oh no, you didn't offend me, I thought I had offended you...funny how email works sometimes!

I think halter tops and spaghetti straps are okay, but showing the belly and short short skirts on the waist are not IMO. I didn't see the show, but I bet Montel was all up in everyone's face huh??

I did watch Dr. Phil's show on gold diggers...I think it was on a couple days ago! FUNNNNNNYYYY! Did you see the women with the big big lips and boobies?? SHE was dressed really conservatively, but I'm sorry, she still came off as a sleeze! It's not only what you wear, it's what you say too!! LOL!

luvbug00 replied: LOL I saw that one !! Soo funny! She had huge melons good greif! Dr. phil. I have a bone to pick with him too. Hee I'm every talk show hosts worst nighmare.