Developments in missing 4yo in Portugal case - sad

amynicole21 wrote: They found her blood in the vehicle her parents rented AFTER she was reported missing They are naming the mother as a suspect.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/09/07...cann/index.html

ZandersMama replied:

moped replied: I heard that - so sad, but there is still a missing link here - IMO

luvmykids replied: It's always seemed very strange to me that parents would leave their children unattended in a hotel room in a foreign country. I'm suprised this didn't come up sooner

MommyToAshley replied: So sad... I can't even imagine.

punkeemunkee'smom replied: I don't even have words!

stella6979 replied: I've been following this story, and my gut always told me that these parents had something to do with it. And even if they didn't have anything to do with it, I still blame them for leaving their kids alone.

Calimama replied:
Ditto.

moped replied:
So what do you think made the mother do this? Is the family corrupt???

stella6979 replied:
Who knows why people do the things they do? From what I've read, they often drugged their kids to get them to sleep. And if that is the case, I don't care if it was accidental or not.

moped replied: Ooooo I need to do some reading - what is the best websitE?

stella6979 replied:
I usually just read cnn.com or even courttv.com.
I'm sorry if I sounded snooty in my previous post, but man, these kinds of things just urk me. I don't understand how any parent can harm their own child/children. And in cases like these, it usually always ends up being the parents.

moped replied: Oh not snooty at all!!!!!!!

It is a crazy world I tell ya

gr33n3y3z replied: poor child so very sad It sounded so fishy from the get go
and here they go again talking about accidentally killed

This world needs an eye for an eye and a hanging in the town square

msoulz replied:
I would bet a lot that the police did suspect the parents all along but had nothing to go on - and you can't arrest "grieving" parents without it.

It usually is someone the child knows. We teach them to be afraid of strangers and forget that sometimes the closest people are the ones who hurt us the most.

jcc64 replied: Guys, there's a lot that we don't yet know, and the parents have not been charged with murder.
Of course it's possible the parents are guilty of something, but let's not forget the JonBenet Ramsey case. Everyone just assumed the mother did it (including me), and she went to her grave with that accusation hanging over her, never to be charged. Wouldn't it be awful to lose your child and have the whole world jump to heinous conclusions about you at the same time???? Let the police and the courts do their work before trying the woman prematurely in the court of public opinion.

Fwiw, I think they were insane to leave such young kids alone for such a frivolous reason,(or any reason for that matter), but there's a long way between really bad parenting and murder.

stella6979 replied:
I'm still not so sure that Patsy and John Ramsey are innocent.

jcc64 replied: That's probably b/c the media did the exact same thing to them, that they are now doing to this family. The authorities had every opportunity to make the case against them, but failed to do so. Shame on them if it's a result of crapy police work- and unfortunately, people occasionally do get away with murder. (cough, OJ, cough). But, if they were in fact innocent, then we all bear responsibility for destroying their lives. I, for one, prefer to reserve judgement until more is known.

MyBrownEyedBoy replied:
I agree with this 100%. Married to an attorney, I've seen the damage the media can do first hand. Not to say that the guilty don't get away with it, but I agree, I wish the presumption of innocence was a bit more prevalent.

Hillbilly Housewife replied: If they left the in the appartment and were dining only a few years away, that's really no different than having the kids asleep intheir beds and you having a late dinner in your backyard. Not everyone has a 2500 sq foot house...and for me...distance wise, my backyard is the same amount of yards away than my basement is. It's one thing to leave them unnatended to go, say, check your mail or return the cart to the corral or go pay for gas... but it's another to just be outside the appartment, having a meal. I highly doubt that it was a highrise appartment, this is a vacation in portugal, it was probably just a small appartment, like beach house style.

If I can sit in my backyard having a bbq with some friends and be unconcerned about my childrens' welfare because I know they're ok and I can hear them through the monitors, I'm sure the parents thought it was ok that their children were asleep in their living quarters and they were just a few yards away. They're locked in, no other way in but through the back... and even so - kids have been taken fro their homes through their windows. So, are the children ever REALLY safe? No.

stella6979 replied:
I'm sorry, but I completely disagree. If you're bbq'ing in your backyard you can easily run in and check on them and if I am in my backyard I always have the monitor with me. These parents claimed that they went in every 10 minutes to check on their kids, but that was later determined not to be true. Anything could have happened to those children. What if there was a fire, what if one of them started choking? Not too mention, they had the means to hire someone to watch them, so why not do that just to be safe? And the patio doors were left unlocked. I just don't see how anyone would feel safe leaving their kids alone in a foreign country, but that's just me.

gr33n3y3z replied:
I dont think they did it at all but they know who did it and protecting him
and He was living in the house with them

gr33n3y3z replied: Either way you look at it. It was the parents responcability to protect their children and they didnt.
They left them alone asleep in a motel room they should be punished to the fullest just for that alone and if one or the other is commited for murder they should suffer a long painful death.

Jamison'smama replied:
According to CNN, the villa was over 100 meters away (109 yards)--a football field. To me that is a long way away.

luvmykids replied:
Ditto, and they were in a restaurant, not a backyard or courtyard where you may have some chance of hearing something.

CantWait replied:

Hillbilly Housewife replied: I must have misread. I understood that they were only a few years away. Like, 12 - 15 feet at most.




just so we're clear...of course I use a monitor when I'm in my backyard. I'm just saying...my backyard isn't any further away from the kids bedrooms than my basement is.

Nina J replied:
Burke Ramsey was 9 years old when his sister was garrotted and had her skull smashed. Find me a particuarly scrawny 9 year old like Burke Ramsey was who can cause a 8 and a half inch crack in a 6-year olds skull, which is stronger than concrete, and I might buy into that theory. And even if you did, it still doesn't explain the still unknown caucasian males DNA found in JonBenet's underpants. I accidently came across an autopsy photograph of that poor childs skull. It was devestating to have to see that, especially as unprepared as I was because I wasn't intending to see it. But after seeing the picture, I don't believe for one second a boy the size Burke Ramsey was could crush a skull to the horrible extent JonBenet's was.

And about Madeleine, I think that the evidence they have about her parents isn't looking good for them. Apparently a large amount of hair was found in the boot of the car they rented 25 days after she vanished. And not the amount of hair explainable by one of her shirts being in there. The news report said the only way that amount of hair could get there, was from Madeleine's body being in the car.

I think if her parent(s) did do this, they need to give it up and come clean, it's the least they could do for Madeleine. They left Portugal extremely quickly after they were interviewed.

Innocent until proven guilty. I pray that Madeleine is alive, and if she has been killed, I hope it was by a stranger and not the people who should have protected her from that kind of evil.

moped replied:

lisar replied:
I have to agree with you.

Calimama replied: I don't see how a mother could do that to a child IF she is in fact guilty.

Crystalina replied: I heard this morning that the hair samples taken from the car showed that she died from an overdose on sleeping pills. I don't have a link but I'll try to find one.

::ETA::
Here is a link. Not the original story I heard. I heard it from MSNBC but can't find the story on there. On t.v. they did not use the words "may have been" but rather, "was overdosed".