Divorce? - Jon & Kate possible spoiler.

Crystalina wrote: Are Jon & Kate getting one? I've heard yes and then no. I don't watch the show anymore (thanks economy! ) so I can't judge on my own. Was it on last night and if so what was the big "shocker"?

coasterqueen replied: I don't watch the show, but read some smut about it in People or US. They said he was out drinking with college kids, telling them how much he hates her, etc, etc. Interesting, for sure. I don't watch the show anymore, either.

moped replied:
It was in my Star mag as well - just gossip I think. At the end of the article he said divorce isn't an option because of child support

stella6979 replied: The big shocker is that they're taking a break from the show.

Crystalina replied:
I saw the pic of him and the two girls. It looks innocent enough. Just him standing between them. He's obviously intoxicated (no harm in that). It may be a ploy to get people to watch the show. I mean really, if he divorces her he will have one heck of a child support payment every month.

Kentuckychick replied: No they're not. I think they are having a difficult time deciding whether or not to continue with the show. Kate loves the opportunity (the things they get to do with the kids and all that) and Jon dislikes all of the stuff that comes along with it (no privacy for example).

When they talked about it last night on the show they did not go into details -- Kate just said that Jon was a little upset about some things that had happened and Jon just said that he's never gotten used to the fact that he can no longer just go out and be Jon -- that he's always "Jon and Kate + 8" now.

Frankly I think their marriage is fine. Jon was staying with his mom to take care of her and did a speech at a local college. Yes there are pictures of him hanging out at a party with college girls... but there were also college guys there too.

I'm betting it's a midlife crisis type thing. He and Kate actually seemed happier during most of their interview last night than they have in a while and Kate didn't seem upset about the situation at all. She just said that they were at odds about whether they want to do another season.

Crystalina replied:
They need to. I know the twins are tired of the camera in their faces. I saw one walk up to the camera (I think at the zoo) and put her hand over it.

Kentuckychick replied:
It's actually the end of the season... so they're taking the same break they do every year. They're just questioning whether or not they'll be back for another full season.

stella6979 replied:
I agree and that is my question. Do they even talk to the kids to see what they want? Probably not.

Mommy2Isabella replied: I absolutely LOVE the show. I do understand totally what they are dealing with. I wouldn't want cameras in my house all the time and I only have two kids. I get irritated when I go out in public and people are staring at me, and wispering things so I know theres is multiplied to 9 million.

I think that taking a break is something they should do for the kids, an extended break, we all know here how much I love Jon & Kate + 8 . However I feel what is best for their family, marriage and children is to take an extended break from filming

moped replied:
Why are people whispering at you?

Kentuckychick replied:
I've seen episodes where both the crew and Jon and Kate themselves explain that the children do not have to be on camera if they don't want. I've even seen an episode or two where the kids tell the camera guys "I don't want to be on camera" and they click to commercial (ie; they turn off the camera). They've also explained that there are places (the kids bedrooms for example) where the cameras aren't allowed unless they're invited in. I noticed that with the exception of the tour episode of the new house we haven't seen the cameras in the kids bedrooms at all. I've also noticed that there's a lot less of the kids in the show in general when they aren't going somewhere together because as Kate said they spread out a lot more now and play independently.

I'm sure it gets old. I can't imagine being followed around by cameras all the time even if you can go somewhere private or not be filmed when you want to. I think if one of them is having questions about continuing, then they shouldn't. But in this economy... I can also understand where Kate would question doing that. I mean that is/has been their main source of income for the past year (since Jon left his job and started working on the show and family stuff).

I'm sure it's a tough decision for both of them.

punkeemunkee'smom replied: Personally I can't stand her! I think she is rude and speaks to him horribly...It's sad that it has been reported that he says divorce is not an option because of child support-there ahould be so many more reasons than that!

gr33n3y3z replied: If I were him and I lived with that controlling,nagging woman I would get a divorce I wouldnt be able to sign those papers fast enough

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mummy2girls replied:
marcus said the same thing.. he could never handle married to that nagging broad...LOL.. he just hndles me and my nagging enough...LOL

stella6979 replied:
Oh, I can be a total nag, but that's not even what bothers me. It's just the way she talks to him and has to correct EVERYTHING he says. He'll say one thing and she'll be like "what I think you mean to say Jon"......SHUT UP KATE! He said what he meant to say!!!!!

Mommy2BAK replied: I think they will be back for another season because Kate wants to and Kate gets what she wants (I'd imagine)

Crystalina replied:
I know. That's kind of degrading IMO. My DH says things that irritate me (he always says "prior before" ). I told him once that it was pretty much the same thing and he still says it so that's all I can do. That's just him. He did it before we got married and I married him anyway. He's also used "yun's" before as in "you all". It took quite a bit of tongue biting for me to get past that one. Actually, I've noticed he doesn't do that one as much anymore. But it isn't because I bother him about it.

If I were married to Kate she would have come up missing years ago.

jcc64 replied: I'm sure it's hard not to pass up the cash. I mean, that house looks pretty plush for someone who just quit his job. Yeah, I'm sure it sucks not having anonymity, but it sure is great getting free vacations to luxury ski resorts and Disney World and a great big fancy new house and all those cute little matching outfits. Everything comes with a price tag. I don't really feel all that sorry for him. And what is a grown man doing getting trashed with college students anyway?? The kids, that's another story, but then again, they'll probably have a better chance at a nice education than they would have if they hadn't done the show, so there's plenty in it for them, too, they just aren't old enough to realize it yet.

MommyToAshley replied:
I agree, everything does come with a price, but what they are giving up is probably worth more than I would be willing to pay. Sure the vacations, house and clothes would be nice, but if the kids and family aren't into being on public display, are all those material things really worth it? Although, it's hard to say what I would do unless I were to walk in their shoes. Ashley would probably love the media attention.

coasterqueen replied:
I totally agree with both of you. And yes, Jeanne I, for once, agree with you.

boyohboyohboy replied: I dont know, the idea of divorce for any family is so sad, but for such a large family, where attention must be spread thin as it is...divorce just sounds really sad.

lovemy2 replied: IMO opinion a) I would hate to see them get divorced - being a single parent is hard enough but a single parent to a baseball team could put anyone over the edge - and does anyone else wonder how much of that nagging, controlling woman and weak, mild mannered man is just for "show" Kinda like the people they pick for Big Brother or Survivor they always have one loon who I am more than sure is strategically placed there by the producers....

Not to mention, they tape alllll the time - for all we know they get along great and are wonderful to and with each other 95% of the time like the rest of the world but they only show the other 5%.....

DVFlyer replied: I've only watched small segments of the show here and there, but the times I have, they both look miserable. The scenes on the couch where they sit next to each other look like two people who would rather be somewhere else.... where's the love?

stella6979 replied:
It's in their bank account.

BAC'sMom replied:

I can't see any MAN wanting the world to see that.

My own DH won't even watch the show because she gets on his nerves.

luvmykids replied: I'm definitely the minority here, she doesn't bother me that much, not really sure why . Partly I guess I feel like if I had that many kids and such a laid back DH I'd feel like I was taking crazy pills too

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Kentuckychick replied:
I'm with you. I mean honestly I've watched the show since the beginning and he annoys me just as much as she does. I mean DO SOMETHING!!! He used to have the excuse that he worked all day everyday and so when he was home he wanted to either relax or just play with the kids (not do work around the house) -- words straight from his mouth. Now he has no excuse.

Plus, if I had that many kids I probably wouldn't always be the nicest wife/mother either. She keeps that house running like a well-oiled machine.

moped replied:
I was waiting for someone else to say that because I am huge minority here...I like her and I think that if any of us had that many kids that age we would be LOONIE as the day is long. Do you honestly think if you were them you would be all cool and collected. I think to make a household like that run you would have to be a bit controlling. I only have 2 kids and Tom says I am controlling - well nobody else is going to do it right

luvmykids replied: Actually, I DO have such a laid back DH I just don't have that many kids so it doesn't seem as bad

moped replied:
Oh I have a DH like that too

coasterqueen replied:
I'm a nut ball being a WOHM, and having two kids.....I couldn't IMAGINE having more. TAKE ME STRAIGHT TO THE LOONIE BIN, is what I'd say.

My husband is pretty laid back too, but he does do a LOT of the housework.

stella6979 replied:
A bit controlling is one thing, but having to control EVERYTHING is completely different. I'm not saying Jon is innocent in all this, I just really have a problem with how disrespectful she is to him. As far as having all those kids, I've seen many of those Kids by the Dozen shows on TLC and I can honestly say I haven't seen one other family with that many kids that has a Mom who behaves the way she does. The attitude you have is completely up to you, and Kate just chooses to be a controlling wench who apparently has no concept of fun. JMO of course.

Calimama replied:
I agree. She's way past just controlling. She's degrading and mean to him. Talking to your husband like he's a dog is not okay no matter how many kids you have IMO.

luvmykids replied: I'm not saying she's the ideal wife or mom, but I actually empathize with her in some ways... I do catch myself getting easily frustrated/irritated/annoyed at times. I hate myself when I go there and agree it's a choice to NOT do that, but as much as I hate to admit it I think if I had five more kids I would probably be a complete lunatic and not act entirely different than she does

I don't like the way she treats him either, IMHO they could probably use some marriage counseling. But then again, BTDT so.....

luvmykids replied:
Yeah, we should get the two of them together.....they could golf, fish and play wii while we shop

jcc64 replied: I think their marriage, at least as it appears in the edit, actually seems pretty solid to me. Yes, she's controlling, yes, she's a nag, yes, she's on his case a lot. But trust me on this, it's going in one ear and out the other--I can tell by the look on his face--it's one I see on my own husband all the time. My dh is so laid back it's like being married to a valium, and believe me, that can get JUST as irritating as Kate's nagging. Sometimes you actually can be TOO laid back, and when that happens, the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the other parent. That's no picnic.
I don't know if the frat party thing happened or not. If it did, I'd be pissed, but do I think it should be a deal breaker--no way. They do seem genuinely fond of each other, warts and all.

moped replied:
Totally agree........I too think I am married to valium to steal your phrase!

Crystalina replied:
I'm stealing it as well.

I also agree that a party with a bunch of hotties does not justify a divorce no matter what happened there. That is just me. If it were habit then yes but a one time thing. No.

I think one reason Jon does not do much around the house is because no matter what he does he gets yelled at for doing it the wrong way (not Kates way basically). I've seen that man putting on shoes and dressing kids and she's wiping off the kitchen counters and yelling at him because "that shirt DOES NOT go with those pants!" or "She just wore that color yesterday!"

That woman needs meds. Either that or she should at least be kind enough to medicate everyone around her.

I understand she has a huge household to run that needs to stay flowing but she needs to knock it down a notch. And yes, I'm sure a lot of that is editing but even if he has to listen to the a couple times a week that's too much.

jcc64 replied: She may be ranting about the clothes not matching (which I agree is a ridiculous thing to get on his case about), but does he actually change the clothes? No, in the end, he does do things his own way, and I don't really think he gives a $#&* what she thinks. He's the ultimate passive aggressive model--no fighting back, but no giving in either. It's my husband.

A&A'smommy replied:
THANK YOU that is exactly what I think, and I would be nutso too if i had a husband like that.. and honestly sometimes I do and it drives me insane with two kids. I can't imagine having 8

luvmykids replied:
Based on that description, you've met mine as well