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Even as Dem - I have to say McCain's speech


My2Beauties wrote: ...seriously moved me to tears. That was the most heartfelt concession speech I've ever heard and I wanted to stand up and salute him for that. clapsmiley.gif clapsmiley.gif clapsmiley.gif Bravo to him for being so eloquent!!! That was wonderful to hear.

punkeemunkee'smom replied: It was an amazing speech! I think he shoould have thrown out his campaign writer and spoken like that the whole race! thumb.gif

Celestrina replied: I totally agree. I am a democrat as well and was impressed. I have always supported Obama, mainly because I agree with his views. Yes, he would have had a much higher chance of winning if he had a different campaign writer the past year. Lets not forget, he should smack whomever chose Palin as his runningmate. His numbers dropped after she was picked.

jcc64 replied: The John McCain that gave that incredibly moving, eloquent speech last night is the guy that I respected, admired, and supported for many years, right up until the craziness of this election cycle. He was dignified, statesmanlike, sincere, and humble, and for the first time in a long time, he really seemed to be speaking from the heart. I think if he had waved off all of the pundits, polls, handlers, and plumbers, and allowed the electorate to see who I think he really is at heart, things might have been different for him. In any event, I have an enormous amount of respect for him after listening to that speech and I wish him well in his life.

luvmykids replied: I too thought it was a much more accurate representation of who he truly is, and I was in tears.

MommyToAshley replied: I was very moved by his speech, and believe it is more reflective of the John McCain we used to know.

lisar replied: Yes that speech was great.

And then Obama came on and I changed the channel

Danalana replied: I didn't hear it, but I'm assuming it was really good.
And I agree with Ed that he would have made a good president.

Calimama replied: I'm sad to see him lose but he went out with such dignity!

Kentuckychick replied: I agree -- very dignified and very respectful. Now if only the ignorant people in the US would actually LISTEN to what he said in that speech about supporting Obama now and quit acting like racist looneys...

I've seen more racist, disturbing and cruel slurs written about Obama in the past 24 hours then I've seen during this entire election....

My2Beauties replied:
Me too have you been reading the forums on the Courier Journal website too? They are horrible, I'm embarrassed to be a Kentuckian right now sleep.gif We live in such a racist state. Where I'm at, I don't believe is necessarily racist because my county is predominantly dems and very racially diverse, but the rest of the state...well.... sad.gif

jcc64 replied: Change is scary for EVERYONE, and I am sure that underneath the racist ranting you've been reading is a current of fear that life as they know it is over. To a certain extent, it is. By the year 2030, 1 in 4 citizens will be Hispanic. We are getting browner every year demographically speaking. Some people feel very threatened by that, but expressing rage is a lot easier than expressing vulnerability and fear, and it's a whole lot easier than trying to imagine walking in another's shoes.
We ALL need to be more patient with each other. One of the reasons I've continued to come to this board despite the fact that I am so clearly outnumbered in terms of my values and politics, is that I want to establish meaningful relationships with people with whom I have very little in common. I learn about other people's motivations and dreams, and it then becomes much more difficult to dismiss their ideas when I realize that deep down, we all want pretty much the same things in the end. We just have different ideas about how to get there.
A few days ago, someone asked what was the most valuable thing we learned here at PC. And I think for me, that lesson would be tolerance.

Danalana replied:
It's sad, but people can be very mean. Though not racially motivated, I have been disgusted with how some people talk about Bush. I mean, BEYOND disrespectful. I am unhappy that Obama won, but I will respect the OFFICE of president. It's something a lot of people need to learn.

Kentuckychick replied:
People have a reason to dislike Bush though... at least we have 8 years of things to complain about him about (and I've yet to hear anyone say they'd be happy if he got assassinated -- yep I've heard that one several times today regarding Obama dry.gif ).

They aren't even giving Obama a CHANCE.

Danalana replied: Being unhappy and complaining is one thing....but the way some people talk is reprehensible. And I knew lots of people who didn't wanna give Bush a chance...LOTS. My grandmother was one of those people. You aren't going to escape it because there are people who can't control their mouths everywhere. It's dumb that people talk about assassinating Obama...but it is a very real concern. And, as much as I didn't want him to win, I certainly don't want anything to happen to him. And honestly, as much as we talk about how far we have come, not everybody has made the journey with us. I have heard it from both sides. I live in a town where there are many African-Americans. I've heard quite a few talk about painting the white house black and voting against "that cracker". And you can imagine what I have heard some say from the other side. It's fine to be unhappy with Bush, but a lot of the stuff is uncalled for. I wasn't happy with Clinton, but I kept my bazoo shut, for the most part.

Kentuckychick replied:
I agree -- it's one thing to voice an opinion -- an entirely different thing to be nasty and disrespectful. The corporate office of my business will be having a conference call with all of us tomorrow to say that political talk will no longer be allowed in the work place. Apparently my call today about the political harrassment myself and another coworker have been experiencing the past few days has been an issue in other states as well.

It's sad that we can't just respect each other. I would NEVER in a million years degrade one of you for your political beliefs. Even if I voice my own, differing opinion, I'd never put someone else down for theirs.

Sam & Abby's Mom replied:
That's too bad because they both gave great speeches.

boyohboyohboy replied: you know if anything makes me want to move to another country, its that currently i am living in a country that feels the answer to not getting your way, is killing the current president.

I just cant imagine what it is like to be hated just simply because you are alive..

Obama was my second choice for a candidate, but I never would have wished ill will to him or his family, not matter what choices he makes in the future..
threatening him or his family is just so low.
maybe he will change his mind on gun control .... wub.gif

luvmykids replied:
Well said, Dana. I am very unhappy with the election but given the fact that he will be our President, that positon demands respect even if I don't respect the person holding it. And I'm tired of hearing that if you didn't/don't support Obama, you're racist because for me personally, that had zero to do with it.

Kentuckychick replied:
just so you know, the "racist looney" reference was in direct response to the deragatory and cruel remarks I've been reading and hearing ALL DAY LONG on the internet and in my own personal workplace. I in no way think that everyone who voted for McCain is a racist. But it's clear from reading those comments... "the *n-word* muslim terrorist" who will be "sworn in on the Torah" that racism and biggotry is very much alive and well in this country today.

It may have had zero to do with you personally... but clearly it had A LOT to do with it for some people.

luvmykids replied:
I know it came into play for many people, and I wasn't implying that YOU called me a racist looney, but I've had more than a few people tell me that simply because I was a McCain voter and lets face it, I'm likely not the only one who has heard something like that. It's become some ridiculous cop out for fanatics who simply can't accept that Obama wasn't everyones candidate.

Sam & Abby's Mom replied: I had no idea how far we, as a country, still need to go until Obama won. I read the N-bomb being dropped, the Anti Christ,,,,,,,,,,,those are just two of many, many names I've read when referring to Obama. I actually felt like the year was 1958, not 2008!

I'm sure some did not support Obama because he didnt fit into their realm of beliefs. That's fine. But those dropping the N-bomb and this ridiculous Anti-Christ notion,,,those are the people I feel drag us down as a Nation. (I remember Reagan and Bush both being referred to as the Anti-Christ. Seems like it happens almost EVERY election! Grow up people - you can make almost anyone into the AntiChrist if you try hard enough. LOL)

I do not remember the message boards being this hateful when Bush won last term. Seems as if alot of the McCain supporters are in an UPROAR . (Of course not all, but alot). A person cant help but wonder if it goes beyond being a sore loser ???


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