Id chipping your kids

mckayleesmom wrote: I was on some other website where they said that their was discussions going around about putting Id chips (tracking devices) in kids. Kind of the same thing as they do with pets and put in cell phones sometimes. Some people were very against it because they thought it invaded their childs privacy. Some were very for it.


I personally think its a great Idea. I think that it will tick Mckaylee and Russell off as teenagers but in my opinion, until they are 18 I have every right to know where they are at any given moment. I don't think I would use it as a way to track their every given moves...I want to rely on respect for that. I would use it for emergencies and if they were missing. I think it has the potential to save alot of childrens lives.

Think about it....a predator snatches a child and the child can be found located in a matter of minutes, making the time frame for something bad to happen to that child limited.

Boys r us replied: Mmm..I voted not sure..but DEFINTIELY on the probably not side

I don't know..there are pros and cons..as with anything!

mckayleesmom replied:
Also..just wanted to clarify...If this becomes available..I would only want to use it for Emergency situations. This wouldn't be used to track their every move as teenagers...... This has nothing to do with distrusting my children, but my distrust in the world we live in today.

Lynda836 replied: I don't think I could bring myself to do that. It's invasive and I don't think I need to know where my kids are 24 hours a day. Right now I have an infant, but I think part of growing up is earning trust.....and part of learning to be a parent is learning to trust your kids. I'm all for the cell phone chip, or for your car...but for people, it seems a bit "Big brother" to me. I'd also be afraid of the abuse...like people that don't need to know your info possible gaining access to it....I know a bit science fiction/conspiracy theory all rolled into one.

5littleladies replied: Probably not. I'm just not comfortable with idea of the government (or whoever else) having the ability to track my children's whereabouts at any given time.

mckayleesmom replied: I just wanted to talk about Jessica Lundsford, the little girl that was killed feet from her house a while back. Her parents, the police, friends and neighbors were out searching for her and she was like 100 feet from her home. The killer said that she was alive for a long time and could hear people calling for her and she knew that people were looking for her, he even let her watch it on the news. Then he panicked and buried that poor baby girl alive. If her parents had that available to them at the time...they could have looked on their computer....found her and sent the cops to that guys house and brought her home safe.

That is the one thing that I would want this ESPECIALLY for.

My3LilMonkeys replied: I have mixed feelings. I can definitely see your point, Brianne, and I totally agree that it could save countless lives and protect children from kidnappers. On the other hand, if the information was hacked by the wrong person, it could tell a sex offender exactly where to find my child. And I wouldn't be thrilled with the idea that the government could know where people were and what they were doing at all times.

I really don't know. The idea has the potential to be a wonderful thing....but there are so many ways it could be misused.

A&A'smommy replied: No I wouldn't because its invasive and for other reason to.. you have a VERY valid point brianne but I just can't do something like that!

AlexsPajamaMama replied:
I agree

Maddie&EthansMom replied:

AlexsPajamaMama replied: Sounds look a good idea....especially after reading your reminder on the Jessica Lundsford case.....
Maybe have it removed/disabled or something when they get into their teens and need deserve privacey so they believe we really have trust in them and dont need technology to make sure we know where they are every second.

mammag replied: Wow that is a very tough question! Part of me wants to say "no way!"....the whole big brother thing.

But like you said Brianne, the potential to saves lives..... hmm. There was a little girl somewhere around her that got taken and he was done with her and put her in an attic type thing and drywalled it so that you couldn't get in without tearing down the wall (this is how I remember the story...not sure on the details). Anyway, like Jessica, they did a search around the area and didn't find her right away. They did eventually, thank God, find her and she was a few houses down or something. She would have been found right away and saved the awful days she spent in there.

So I don't know, part of me would be against it, part for. I would have a hard time doing it but would definitely have a long think about it.

mckayleesmom replied: I can see the negatives...don't get me wrong. But finding my child if they were abducted far outweighs that. There are alot of ways they can safeguard against predators being able to access the accounts too...For example...more then 1 password to get the information and a family question....KWIM?

C&K*s Mommie replied: I am with the "unsure" thinkers. On one hand absolutely & without a doubt- to safeguard my children from predators and abductors and to save precious time. Otoh, if it were available in the present day I would have to examine all angles before I could make a decision. Things such as "who" would have access to know where my children are. "what" are the circumstances where that info is made available. Is it merely for protection and to save time, or will some sneaky government agency have the ability to divulge that tracking info to a third party without my prior knowledge. Would the td be for life, or for a limited time. Is it harmful to my child to have something foreign implanted in them. What are the risks in the long term. So on and so forth, I would be full of questions and I could not make a hasty decision about something so important as my children are to me. Especially when it comes to artificially putting something in their bodies. I am just not so sure about that.

Hillbilly Housewife replied: I would definitley do it if the tracker was something so stupid as like a shoe or something. I won't pierece my daughter's ears, I certainly won't inject a tracking device.

luvbug00 replied: not my kids but temporary on teenagers would be nice!lol! No just kidding I would never do that.

Nina J replied: I wouldn't do it. I think it would have negative effects on a relationship between a parent and a teenager. I hope when my girls are teens, and are going out, we have a trusting relationship. So, in my mind, I wouldn't need to. But, I might take that back in 14 years

Also, while it has the potential to save many childrens lives, the chances of my child getting kidnapped?? It could happen, I'm not one of those people who think it won't happen to me, but anything could happen. I could be dead in 5 minutes, I never know. Yes, one of my girls could be kidnapped. But then again, they couldn't.

It's an interesting idea though. Kind of cool, how technology has advanced so much

holley79 replied: Working for the SO we have so many runaway who I would love to have some kind of tracking device on.

As for with my child, I'm not so sure. I think if it could be inserted then removed when they were older maybe. If I were the only one with given access maybe. I don't think it is anyone but my own's business where my child is. I also would use it to invade privacy. OTOH, if something happened to my child I would like to know I could find her quickly before something happened.

I am just curious as to how accurate it is. Does it pin point an exact location or just a vacinity? I know we were tracking a man with 35 felony warrant through his cell phone. We couldn't get an exact but we were able to get a vacinity. I guess I would have to really read up on the pros and cons of it.

Our patrol cars were just equipped with GPS monitoring. It pin points in real time where our deputies/ patrol car is at all times. The guys hate it because now we are talking a "trust" thing here.

defiantly would have to seriously think about it.

redchief replied: No, I couldn't do it. My child is not my bike or TV or car, and there are enough individual traits already inherent in each person to positively ID all of them. I am, however in favor of fingerprinting (and the PARENTS keeping the prints with important papers). Eventually retina mapping will be affordable and available, and I'd be okay with parents having a copy of each child's retina map with the prints.

My2Beauties replied: Wow I'm on the fence about this one too. I'm sure the parents of the thousands of missing/abducted children wish to God they had an ID chip on their child. That's where I'm at, as the mother of a small child, abduction is my absolute worst fear and it can happen when your child is in your own home, people can sneak in their window and take them, I mean it's that simple. So, in that case the benefits of finding my child minutes after an abduction are far worth it. BUT.....I think with teenagers it's a different ballgame, there is a trust issue there. But Teenagers are not exempt from being abducted also. Also, someone mentioned the foreign object in their body, that is my main concern, what sort of effects could this electronic tracking device have on my child, could it cause problems. Is it inserted in them? Is it just attached to the inside of their clothes or something, is it something they wear? I mean there are so many questions. I just don't think that I could insert a chip into my child's body, I just think it sounds kind of dangerous.

Jackie012007 replied: I'm going to be the weirdo and say I am for it. The first thing that popped into my head was Jessica Lunsford when I read this. I dunno how they plan to do it with kids, but with dogs it is a microscopic chip that is injected via syringe just under the skin... much like the TB tests that are given nowadays. I dunno, I just don't see it as a big privacy issue, if you are upfront with your child and explain to them (when they are old enough to understand) that in this day and age, it is necessary to have this sort of protection and it is for their protection only. But there IS an abuse concern with nosey parents (and the government too I guess)... I just tend to focus on what a piece of mind it would give if god forbid my child were taken from me. I def agree that if they could somehow have it removed when they became an adult, that would be helpful as well.

I know one thing for sure...it's EXTREMELY helpful when finding runaway or stolen dogs!

MyLuvBugs replied: It sounds like Lo-Jack for kids!

Sorry...I voted "not sure".....I can see emergancy situations (kidnappings, missing kids, etc). It would help so much for those situations.....

But then I start feeling like my kids would just become an ID number instead of a kid with a name, feelings, emotions, and a personality. KWIM?? And that makes me feel like the world then starts turning into some sci-fi movie like The Island or something, and it just creeps me out. I know I don't like being treated like just a number, so why would I want that for my kids..... And there's the privacy issue

Just dont' really know if the pros really out weigh the cons. JMO though.

YuMe-n-GavMakes3 replied:
That all sounds great in THEORY!

But hasn't anybody seen Total Recall?
Where he pulls the tracking device out of his head and gets the rat to eat it?

Man its bad enough thinking theres weirdos out there that would take my kid!

Now you want me to worry they may be trying to slice them up to find the tracking device!

NO WAY!!

Okay I'm off to teach the boy groin kicks

luvmykids replied:
Cuts down on donut time?

Leithan replied: I voted "No" because "absolutely most definitely not" was not an option. There are so many reasons why this is wrong, look how much controversy there is surrounding RIF tags being placed in merchandise. There is no way to prevent corporations from exploiting our chipped kids; they can use the tracking info to better help focus advertising to our kids. Look at what Sony did, they included soft wear on their music Cds that once loaded in your computer allowed them to see what music you listened to and send you advertising based on the information, which after a short trial was found to be illegal and an invasion of privacy. I just can’t see allowing corporations that kind of access to my children. As we are all more then aware that legislation and laws do not prevent big business from trying to make a buck off of us. The “Can Spam act” that worked fantastically…right? I don't think the issue should be how better can we keep track of our children but how better can we keep track of those that would do them harm. In closing, historically anytime we have looked for outside assistance in child rearing in most cases it did more harm then good, in the 80's it was better parenting through counseling, the 90's it was better parenting through pills and today it's better parenting through technology.

To caveat my last statement, I am not saying that no ones children benefited from counseling or medication, but no long term studies were done before these "fixes" were prescribed and we are just now seeing the repercussions, just ask any parent who had a child misdiagnosed as having ADD.

And no, I do not wear a "Tin Foil Hat" and yes I read 1984, 4 times in fact.

redchief replied: Putting the moral and "ick" factors aside, I'm pretty sure there is some misconception here about what the VeriChip technology is capable of. For example, the Jessica Lundsford was thrown out as an example of how the technology could have been used to save her life. The sad truth is, it couldn't have. The technology is amazing, but all things have to conform to the laws of physics, and the transmitter can only be read a few feet away. It's just too small and weak to go any further. It's highly unlikely that a stronger signalled emitter would be safe as an implant. In the "Enemy of the State" world this is possible; it makes for a good movie plot. In the real world it isn't.

Unimplanted chips can be read in a controlled environment (such as a warehouse) up to 30 feet away in clear RF air, in other words, under ideal conditions. The real world is neither controlled or ideal and the manufacturer says that a 10 foot read would probably be the absolute best they could do with technology available today. Proponents instead are selling the immediate recall of medical information as the best use of the product on the street, in hospitals and maybe ambulances. This can be done in noninvasive ways, though, with just as accurate results.

punkeemunkee'smom replied: Thanks, Ed!

luvmykids replied: I hadn't replied earlier because I simply hadn't heard enough about the whole idea, but in light of what others have said, it seems to me the negatives far outweigh the positives and I'd have to say no.

3_call_me_mama replied: Absolutely not! I could nto jnject somethgininto my child that woudl give anyone the ability to track them, be it me or some government official or some sicko who manages to crack into soem computer and hack the info. (Sorry if that sounds a litle far fetched, but it could happen) I dont' believe in ID chipping living things. I know that it has teh thought to potentially save lives, so do several other things and end up being more harmful than good.

ashtonsmama replied: I think it's slightly ludicrous. And crazy.

JMHO.

mummy2girls replied: i wouldnt.. it reminds me of that movie with robin williams.. now if i can remember the name...