What is wrong with kids these days? Am I - wrong to expect some decent behavior?
kit_kats_mom wrote: Example #1 a group of 5 11-13 year old boys show up on my doorstep at 4pm today. No costumes and it's still daylight out. I open the door and they say "trick or treat". Um. No. Sorry.
Example #2 we took the girls out right when it started getting dark. A group of about 6 boys, probably 9-13 years old, were right behind us. They kept running up after our girls knocked and the doors were opened, pushing Lauren and Katherine out of the way. It was so rude. They were also running through everyones yards.  Then they went to one house that we didn't go to and I heard one say "Oh Man! They left a bucket with candy on the porch!" and away he ran with the ENTIRE BUCKET! 
Example #3 someone set off firecrackers in the middle of the sidewalk in front of us which scared the beezeepers out of the girls. 
Example #4 we got home and started passing out candy. Tons of teenagers were coming up with pillow cases full of candy and no costumes. My rule, which is more lenient than my DH's, no costume, no chocolate...one lollipop.  So a group of big boys (maybe 16 or more) come up in no costume and I hand them each one lollipop. One of them says "thanks Dumba--" and throws the lollipop in our yard. I was so stunned that I didn't even say anything.
Seriously, if I EVER caught my kids acting like that or heard about it from someone else...they'd be grounded for so long that their friends wouldn't recognize them when they come out.
ETA: I wanted to add that this is a nice neighborhood in the burbs. The majority of the homes in our subdivision are selling for 350+. I come from a dirt poor background and I don't recall this kind of behavior when I was a kid. I'm really disapointed in these kids.
ediep replied: OMG!!!! That is horrifying!!! I hope K and L had a good time despite the jerks!
We did have some big boys without costumes on come by, and my teacher side almost came out and said "No WAY!", but then I though againa nd I figured, its halloween, they are just kids, how can I say no
cameragirl21 replied: Cary, sorry but your post made me  because that just sounds so typical for teenyboppers. I often ask myself if I was ever this obnoxious when i see them out and about and sadly, the honest answer is yes...maybe not quite as obnoxious as what i usually see but i wasn't exactly an angel. of course i would never act like what you're describing, that is just atrocious.
I'm sorry your Halloween was a bit of a bummer but hopefully the girls still had fun. My house has a wall and gate around it so I don't get trick or treaters but I had no idea they'd go out without costumes, I don't ever remember anything like that when i was a kid.
all in all, i think Halloween should be reserved for the kids, at least the door to door candy collection part of it and if teens opt to participate then they should be expected to put on a costume, behave themselves and understand that they are guests in a kids' holiday that they have long outgrown and that the kids have right of way.
i also think that maybe for next year, you should think about putting a sign on your door that says something to the effect of, "no costume, no candy" and solve that problem before it comes knocking on your door.
CantWait replied: Incredibly rude.  I have to blame the parents though. It's obvious they weren't taught any manners. 
PrairieMom replied:  YOu are way more generous than me. I have a rule, if you are over 11 or so no candy. No candy to anyone who looks like they can get a job to buy their own candy, no costumes, no candy, and as for the kid that cursed at you and threw the lolly pop, I would " accidentally" have set my 80 pound mutt on him. 
mummy2girls replied: thats awful! thats how it was at the mall. the big kids were pushing the little kids out of the way to get to the candy! it was very sad!
C&K*s Mommie replied: I hope your girls had an enjoyable & memorable time depsite the nonsense of those teens.
Calimama replied: Wow.. I would have thrown eggs at them.
redchief replied: By 11 I wasn't even allowed outside on trick-or-treat night. I had to stay home and greet the kids with the candy. Trick-or-treating after the age of 11 just wasn't done.
paradisemommy replied: well i thought it was just a hawaii thing - the kids that don't dress up in costume, come in their regular clothes with an open backpack on their chest - irks me to no end to see kids doing this because it's just downright rude. dh refuses to give any candy to these folks..too funny cause he'll look at them and ask them...what are you supposed to be?? and they of course either shrug their shoulders or say..um..i don't know..dh told them..no way boo, it's not too hard, just TRY to dress up..you don't have to have a huge costume, just something small but you have to at least attempt to dress up...seriously..no way..
me on the other hand am such a big old chicken - if i'm passing out candy, i just give it to them - i don't want them coming back and vandalizing my house or something, ya know?
amynicole21 replied: Good lord! I can't belive that
I'll admit - I trick or treated even in college.  We always had costumes though.
amymom replied: I am sorry that happened. We fortunately only had one group here in town that I heard of that were being like that, and most of the other teens 'ostracized' them quickly. So they left town fast.  Most of our teens were polite and all were in costume except for a small group.
gr33n3y3z replied: the rule here is no costumes no candy 
As for age goes doesnt matter if you took the time out to dress up you got the candy .... most of the time it was the older brother or sister taking the younger ones out.
Simplebeliever replied: That's a shame. There were a lot of older kids trick or treating in my area too. From what I observed, the kids around here were extremely polite, well mannered, and weren't going overboard on candy.
gr33n3y3z replied:
Thats the way it was around here also
Hillbilly Housewife replied: Well... as far as I'm concerned... if you go to someone's house to ask them for something, you'd be more likely to get more by being nice, no? 
We only got like 8 kids last night... so whatever. I went to my mom's a little while after I got home, and on the way I crossed 3 older kids... I considered turning home and dumping the letovers on them. But I didn't. 
Donna027 replied: Thats just terrible! Ive noticed kids seem to be more rude and that theres a lot of olfer kids trick or treating in my area as well. Mant of them were not in costume but were pretty respectful and said thank you after giving them candy. I dont mad over giving candy to the older kids or the ones who arnt in costume. Its only candy...
luvbug00 replied: Ha forget the older kids it was the younger ones here that were compleate ding dongs! they all pushed and shoved their way to the frount and finally we just left because it was rediculas. and their parents were RIGHT THERE.
Kaitlin'smom replied: I woudl NOT have stood for that. Thanksfull I did nto encounter any of that, heck when DH took Kait out he dressed up with her, (no he did not ask for candy) and when I took her out I wore my devil horns, it was fun. Its supposed to be fun and not greddy. I think If kids liek that came to my house they woudl most deffinalty get a trick
TheOaf66 replied: yep gotta love that when kids act that way. Certain kids just have no respect courtesy or manners these days. We have been pummeling manners and respect into tanners head for as long as we can remember.
Boo&BugsMom replied: Honestly, it doesn't surprise me much. It seems many parents these days do not even care or take the time to teach their children the proper manners, common courtesy, and morals anymore! And...it will probably only get worse with all these "new age" ways of parenting. What ever happend to the good old fashioned ways of doing things? Some parents these days seem to give their children CONTROL instead of just choices. I could go on and on. If Tanner acted like that he better watch out for the wrath of mom and dad! That would be totally inexcusable! I hope the kids had fun anyway.
My2Beauties replied: Cary I'm so sorry! The firecracker thing would have made me livid and I think I'da said some not so nice words to those kids!! Gosh, our neighborhood was so wonderful. There were tons of people giving candy out. All the kids were so polite, one boy accidentally bumped into me and said I am so sorry ma'am (I got ma'amed  ) and I didn't see any really older teenagers, the oldest was probably 13. The kids were standing in lines for candy and being very nice to one another! In my old neighborhood the kids act like that though  I'm so glad we moved! Cary I can't believe in that type of suburb you got such whackos.
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