ok intervening defenitely has to be done...

mummy2girls wrote: Im sorry some may agree some may not.... But those kids is what I am worried about and it just can't continue after many weeks of what we have witnessed....

a week ago i was alone as marcus was working a night shift. Around 930pm I hear a BANG and the pictures on teh wall actually moved... I ran outside and I heard the husband yelling, swearing and calling his wife names. and she was cryinga nd screaming back. Then I heard from all that yelling the 11 month old cryinga nd screaming.... I had teh phone in my hand ready to call teh cops but it died down to a disagreement fight. I sat outside just to make sure everything was ok and then i heard the wife kick him out. The next day the cops arrive at her door. They ushered him in to get his thinsg and then ushered him out. well last night guess who is back... yes the hubby. well they start fighting again. Then as im sitting here i see the wife and hubby leave. I turn to marcus and say.... uh they left the kids home alone( they are 6 and 11 months) he said no they couldnt of. I go out to teh yard and see the 6 year old looking out the window. Marcus went for a walk and saw them out of teh complex acroos the street fighting. They left those 2 kids in house alone for 30 minutes!!!! She ran back home, the husband left but 20 minutes later he returns , they fight more and then all of a sudden they are lovey dovey! so that i can not just turn my head away....

grapfruit replied: I say that I have to agree. I would call the police or protective services as well.

youngmomofone replied: Poor kids

A&A'smommy replied: Call the cops even if they calm down before they get there.. and keep calling the cops everytime until someone else gets involved

Sam & Abby's Mom replied: I cant believe they left them alone like that.................... not to mention all of NONSTOP fighting poor babies.

luvbug00 replied: i don't agree in interfering. I do understand that we all have to do what we deem as the best.

moped replied:
I agree here too

mummy2girls replied:
so... if they feel they can leave thier kids alone for half hour then they can do it againa nd agin but onger. So much can happen in a short time and that little girl can open a door to anyone that stops by. I even heard the mom at one point say.... Al***** take your baby brother into teh bathroom and lock the door until i come get you, and she is screaming this to the girl in fear the dad is goign to do something. So if that isnt a reason to get involved then what is? I can sit back and ignore the situation and pretend nothing is happeninga nd trust that those kids and wife wont get hurt but then how would i feel if one day i see an ambulance pull up because someone got hurt. I dont want the kids taken away I just think its time to get someone involved where they can give the mom tools to help the situation and leave the hubby if she is worried or just get the parents help to help the relationship between them. I had to call Child services on adayhome parent because she admitted her boyfriend hit her son and i saw a gash on his butt that was caused by a spoon...kids need to be protected if they cant by thier own parents

luvbug00 replied:

For ME it goes as simple as this. I do not live with them. I don't know their situation. I don't know who is the "bad guy" just because he was taken away doesn't mean he wasn't reacting in defense to her abuse. There has been NO evidence physical abuse to the kids. (everyone's parents fight and some to that extreme. sure it's not the best but it's not abuse)
Different when someone admits harm has come to their child.

mummy2girls replied:
oh im not saying he is the bad guy and im not trying to say she is. what im worried here is the kids. being left alone for half hour and legally they can get into a lot of crap for doing that. I know if they are just agrueing then they are but once i hear the wife say help me!!! and i hear the kids being hit then yes i am goign to intervene. Because once again its teh kids.... that i care about. and yes I have heard him hit her.... And i have witnessed it. the kids no i have not seen or heard. We had a talk trhe other night because once again they were going at it. She sent the oldest into the bathroom so they dont get hurt. As thats what she said to the oldest one. but we dont ahve any grounds to call the cops. BUT once we hear HELP! we see or hear someone get hit and teh kids yell help. or dont hit mommy/daddy then we will call...

luvbug00 replied:

my statement on not calling is based on the little bit of information was stated in previous posts and this one. Now IF someone calls for help or you witness the kids being hit then by all means DO call. Otherwise if it's their constant fighting i'd just leave it alone. But most cops dont waste their time with domestic disputes until a child is hit and or someone really is beaten to a pulp. sad but they rather not get involved and I wouldn't want my kids or myself at risk if the abusing party knows your telling because they could come after you next. JMHO.

MommyToAshley replied: I probably wouldn't call the police if the parents are having an arguement, unless you know for sure there is physical abuse. If arguing were a crime, unfortunately, half the married couples I know would lose their kids.

However, I would call the police the instant the kids were left alone if you are sure they are not with a sitter. Under no circumstances should kids that age be left alone.

coasterqueen replied:
agreed

mummy2girls replied:
i agree. i will make sure that no one is getting hurt .... usually it happens at night so we just keep an ear open to just be careful

CantWait replied:
I couldn't agree with this more. Enough is enough!!!

CantWait replied: I'm sorry, but this does not sound like a comfortable or healthy place for children to thrive. I grew up in much the same environment when I was a child for years and years, listening to my mom fight and argue, screaming at the top of her lungs with her bf's until it escalated to violence.

How you can you say not to intervene???

grapfruit replied: Ok, this is a very dramatic case of "wish somebody would of gotten involved" but well, nobody did.

This happened in the town I work in. I bit much for some.

Neighbors still speaking out about baby's death

Sam & Abby's Mom replied:
I totally agree. That's the problem with today's society -- no one wants to get involved/its not 'our business',,,etc. (not talking about you, Shelly,,,,, just saying 'you' collectively).

So what's the worst thing that happens if you do call the cops and it turns out its not what it seems and its not necessary? The cops show up, check out the situation and then they go away. No harm done.

and what's the worst thing that happens if you DONT call the cops and it IS necessary? o.O

CantWait replied:


My thoughts exact. The cops have the know how to access the situation properly, and make an educated and experienced decision.

luvbug00 replied:

simple, it's not anyone's business.

people do interfere and at times are right. But also have interfered and have been wrong and ruined other peoples lives.
My personal rule is this if I am not an EYE WITNESS to PHYSICAL harm then I mind my own. NOT my place.

Calimama replied: Crazy. Poor kids. Sounds like both parents are duds.